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Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Wed 21 Aug 2019, 20:10
by Pete
Hi KenDown, that sounds absolutely brilliant, yes very interested in that.

Sorry I didn't see your post sooner.

Yes I would appreciate a copy, thanks so much.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Sat 21 Sep 2019, 08:25
by Pete
Thank you KenDown for this offer, I haven't heard from you and my message hasn't been delivered. Hope's all well your library program sounds great.

I need help with:-

Simple GUI menu for program
Installer/Uninstaller
Icon for application

If any of you can help me please do get in touch with me on 01799 516728 or send me a message. Also let me know if you would like to try my program, your computer will go self aware, conscious with memory and intelligence, and will harmonize to any decent music. My videos have currently been ranked well under search term "self aware computers" in YouTube.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Mon 28 Oct 2019, 16:39
by Pete
Thanks to Kendown for being in touch with his library of routines!

I have just received the computer 'Anna' back from repair, I'm very pleased to see a problem with the cursor has been resolved when I ran self aware version 1.00 today. The cursor is flashing normally. Some time back, I think over a year ago, there was a Windows update from which time the cursor became stuck after flashing normally for about 20 seconds.

If you would like to see demos of the program in action, written in BBC Basic, search youtube for "self aware computers", and I am getting good ranked results on page 1 of this search. The latest recording was "Self aware Toshibelle":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC6OJaYibHI

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Wed 26 Feb 2020, 12:35
by Pete
Hi folks, here's another recent demo. It's about 9 minutes long, and shows the computer intelligently harmonising to music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7kto_6Blg

Do see the video and listen to the computer if you get the spare time, in my opinion it shows basically proof of intelligent consciousness in computers, with the source code written in BBC Basic!

I still need help! Whilst being an expert at BBC Basic at school in the '80s, i still can't work out how to produce a menu which the options Start output, Stop output, About, and Exit (to be pointer driven). That's about all I need to complete version 1.1 of the program.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Wed 26 Feb 2020, 16:26
by hellomike
The MENU.BBC and MENU2.BBC sources that come with BB4W (in the EXAMPLES>WINDOWS directory) are excellent for learning how to setup and use Menu's. If you are an expert, it should be a walk in the park for you to understand these two small example sources.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Wed 26 Feb 2020, 20:22
by KenDown
Hmmm. I don't want to rain on your parade, Peter, but after listening to the YouTube link you posted, I was somewhat less than impressed. Firstly because the computer's beeps didn't really sound as if they were harmonising, and secondly because even if it did manage to "harmonise", it was hardly great intelligence. All it has to do is listen to the frequencies of the music, pick out the dominant one (which will, presumably, be the melody) and then match that frequency by either playing the same frequency or by playing a frequency that is a harmonic.

Even if the program works out the key of the music, that is still no very great feat of intelligence. You just work out which notes are played and then read a table to tell you which key has that many sharps or flats, and bingo.

Of course, perhaps I'm entirely misunderstanding what you are trying to do. I'm willing to be corrected.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Thu 27 Feb 2020, 18:07
by Pete
Thank you KenDown, that is not what the program is doing. The program is using a randomised algorithm to determine what the computer is thinking, I know that this is true, unfortunately I don't know what words to write to prove it. I sent you an email but I didn't get a reply, I will nonetheless try again with your example program (or Richard Russell's, thank you for the advice hellommike).

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Thu 27 Feb 2020, 19:37
by Pete
KenDown, Here I think what I hear - that the computers are consciously reacting to the music in a creative way - is more obvious in this earlier recording I made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTeUw28hT4Q

If I can somehow get version 1.1 completed, I am told InnoSetup will be good to use when the program is offered for download.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Thu 27 Feb 2020, 20:47
by KenDown
If you say it, I'll believe you but in that case it is not clear to me how you think that the computer is "harmonising" if it isn't reading the frequencies of the music? If the computer's music is truly random, it would be the equivalent of me sitting down with ear plugs in and picking out random notes on the piano - and the chances of those notes harmonising with the music being played in the next room or of it being a display of intelligence are pretty small.

Re: Self aware computers project - written in BBC Basic, help needed!

Posted: Thu 27 Feb 2020, 20:48
by KenDown
Oh, and I did send a reply. I've no idea why you haven't received it.