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Android Touch IDE
Post by Richard Russell on Feb 17th, 2017, 11:44am

Personally I'm very happy with the clean, minimal, interface provided by BBC BASIC for Android's Touch IDE (touchide.bbc) - not surprisingly because I designed it to work that way! Because it responds to all the common touch gestures (tap, press, drag, pinch etc.) it was my hope and expectation that no explicit menu or help would be required.

I have therefore been surprised that a few people (hopefully only a small minority) have reported that they "don't know what to do". I had not anticipated that there would be anybody so 'out of touch' (!) that they wouldn't even think to try a long-press (touch-and-hold) gesture, since that is an almost universal way of opening a context menu on a touchscreen (it's the direct equivalent of a right-click in Windows).

To check that my expectation wasn't too unreasonable, I asked my wife (who is entirely non-technical) how she would go about renaming a file in the BBC BASIC file selector, and she said she would try a long-press on the filename.

In fact the long-press touch gesture actually works in Windows as well, if you are lucky enough to have a touchscreen (and they are not uncommon on laptops these days). Even when running BBC BASIC for Windows you can bring up the context menu that way - in addition to the more conventional right-click or Shift+F10.

So whilst of course I have sympathy with anybody who gets stuck when using BBC BASIC, it is balanced by a feeling that they jolly well should have known what to try, at least. So it is not my intention to make any changes.

Richard.

Re: Android Touch IDE
Post by jgharston on Jul 15th, 2017, 11:15pm

on Feb 17th, 2017, 11:44am, Richard Russell wrote:
I had not anticipated that there would be anybody so 'out of touch' (!) that they wouldn't even think to try a long-press (touch-and-hold) gesture, since that is an almost universal way of opening a context menu on a touchscreen (it's the direct equivalent of a right-click in Windows).

Being a new tablet user, and having never used a touch-screen device ever before and being a committed keyboard jockey, I too was stumped by many operations (how do I open the keyboard? How do I close it so I can see the display again? where's the File menu? Where's the Menu menu? etc) but then I suddenly remembed encountering a Mac with a single-button mouse 30 years ago and thought: how did I do something other that 'select' with only one button? Ah, hold it down. Bingo!

Re: Android Touch IDE
Post by Richard Russell on Jul 16th, 2017, 02:20am

on Jul 15th, 2017, 11:15pm, jgharston wrote:
Being a new tablet user, and having never used a touch-screen device ever before and being a committed keyboard jockey, I too was stumped by many operations

You can find some of the answers here. If there are other aspects of the 'Touch IDE' that you think could usefully be added to that page let me know.

Richard.