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 1   General Board / Re: Proboards is a nearly identical replacement  on: Today at 09:35am
Started by michael | Post by Richard Russell
on Today at 03:18am, michael wrote:
Took a bit of research, but HERE IT IS.. and its free!
https://www.proboards.com

ProBoards is where JB and LB have gone, as you probably know. I reserved bbcbasic.proboards.com and lbbooster.proboards.com yesterday, to prevent any cyber-squatting, but I'm not currently planning to activate them.

There are a couple of issues that concern me about ProBoards. Firstly there's no more certainty that they won't suddenly disappear than there was with Conforums (even now there's still no official confirmation, at their support forum, that Conforums is closing). Secondly their ad-free service is even more expensive than Conforums (and apparently ProBoards aggressively counter ad-blockers).

So I'm currently looking at other options. As I mentioned before, if you add the annual charge for Wikispaces to the costs of keeping Conforums ad-free it amounts to a considerable savings. For far less than that amount I can host both the forum and the wiki, with no advertising at all! The downside is that it's a much smaller enterprise with possibly even less certainly of staying in business.

I'm still awaiting a response from the admin of the BB4W forum - I suspect he may be 'offline' for Easter - and obviously it isn't appropriate to do anything until I know what his plans are. There is no way that I want to re-instate the crazy dual-forum (BB4W plus BBCBASIC) arrangement that we currently have, with the silly ongoing feud.

Richard.

 
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 2   General Board / Re: Proboards is a nearly identical replacement  on: Today at 05:11am
Started by michael | Post by roy
Looks good wink
 
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 3   General Board / Proboards is a nearly identical replacement  on: Today at 03:18am
Started by michael | Post by michael
Took a bit of research, but HERE IT IS.. and its free!

https://www.proboards.com

here is a sample:

http://code-forum.freeforums.net/

(Ok I made that one.. he he he )

So now you have a new home for LBB and BBC Basic!!

And for your info.. LB has made a forum there too


;D Did I win?
 
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 4   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Yesterday at 11:25am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by Richard Russell
on Mar 29th, 2018, 10:31pm, michael wrote:
I know this is not exactly the solution you were looking for, but it is a step forward and One Drive is Microsoft so it should be around in the long term future

I can't see a home-made forum (programmed in BBC BASIC or anything else) being a viable option. I suspect this is another example of your enthusiasm for reinventing the wheel slightly losing touch with reality!

Let's wait and see what the BB4W forum chooses to do; it may be that we can hang on their coat-tails (it's a much larger forum, based on 'raw' membership numbers, than this one). I've suggested to its administrator that it could even create an opportunity to 'heal the rift'.

Failing that, losing both wikispaces.com and conforums.com does free up some money (Wikispaces started charging a few years ago, and Conforums have always charged to remove advertisements) which could go towards a paid-for hosting solution if that looks like the most sensible option.

Facebook remains a possibility (I already have three groups, currently unused but 'waiting in the wings') but I do worry that the age-profile of BBC BASIC users means that fewer are members of Facebook than the population at large, and recent revelations haven't exactly allayed any privacy concerns people may have.

Richard.

 
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 5   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 29th, 2018, 10:31pm
Started by Richard Russell | Post by michael
Using facebook as the group management, I could use One Drive to create a forum using a program I was thinking of modifying my Que Card text program to work like a forum. Of course, it would require some expansion, as at the moment it only carries one board (in theory)

All a person would need to do is save the data file to their One Drive (Microsoft) and provide a link so I can see any changes that a person creates)

With One Drive, if the same text file is used, any changes to that text file will work with the same link. ( I tested it)

Of course the forum would be by invitation and of course they would need BBC Basic For Windows (Trial or Full version) to keep everything working smooth on a One Drive file.

Once all the kinks are worked out, anyone could essentially moderate it with a special moderator program I would provide.

So DDRM, or David Williams or Richard, if you are interested, I would like to do a bit of trials.

I know this will work. And a member can be created on Facebook and can join the cloud group. I have already created the Programming group on Facebook, but didn't expect this to happen. So sad.

Here is a link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/523357661397543

I know this is not exactly the solution you were looking for, but it is a step forward and One Drive is Microsoft so it should be around in the long term future.... Feel free to join the Facebook group.

Another note: I think I found a way to make Facebook work like a forum. (pics of code and links to the text file)
 
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 6   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 29th, 2018, 08:30am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by Richard Russell
on Mar 29th, 2018, 12:28am, michael wrote:
I knew you would find a solution.

Solution to what? You asked who was hosting the wiki to which you linked, so I found out and told you. We still have a need to move the BB4W wiki somewhere.

Or maybe not. Now that Conforums has announced it is closing we perhaps need to reassess the need for online support. Personally I would be happy to concentrate my resources on Facebook.

I am certainly not going to bother to replace this forum, but it will be interesting to see what the main BB4W forum chooses to do.

Richard.

 
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 7   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 29th, 2018, 12:28am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by michael
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In this particular case by RWTH Aachen University, who probably make available their server(s) for this 'educational' purpose. Incidentally it doesn't take any "figuring out"


I knew you would find a solution. And offering the documentation to the electronic libraries could give it that life you wish for it. ( as in the libraries that students use)

It did cross my mind that the university of Cambridge or some other educational entity would be interested in preserving the documentation and BBCSDL, as it has significant history. You after all, are responsible for BBC Basic making it this far. The older version of BBC Basic would have been forgotten along with other extinct languages that only have a mention in Wikipedia. (like Turbo Pascal )

( I just had a thought worthy of editing ... Wikipedia (you know the BBC Basic For Windows and perhaps BBCSDL in a sense could be hosted if properly arranged in the documentation.. (lol) I don't know if Wikipedia would care about such a large modification to the BBC Basic info. I take it there are rules.)

grin
 
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 8   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 28th, 2018, 11:51am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by Richard Russell
on Mar 28th, 2018, 08:40am, michael wrote:
It will take time to figure out how this example is being hosted.

In this particular case by RWTH Aachen University, who probably make available their server(s) for this 'educational' purpose. Incidentally it doesn't take any "figuring out": nslookup told me the host in seconds!

As I've said before I'm not keen on the 'private server' option, mainly because of the cost implications (who is going to pay for it, probably on an ongoing annual basis?) but also because it puts an individual in control whom everybody who contributes to the Wiki has to trust.

Richard.

 
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 9   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 28th, 2018, 08:40am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by michael
I am researching it. Here is a docuwiki link that seems to be separate from the wiki main page. It will take time to figure out how this example is being hosted. ( this may not be the right choice)

I am studying some Youtube videos on this and other options

http://hampager.de/dokuwiki/doku.php
 
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 10   General Board / Re: Wikispaces is closing down  on: Mar 28th, 2018, 08:18am
Started by Richard Russell | Post by Richard Russell
on Mar 28th, 2018, 12:13am, michael wrote:
https://www.wikimatrix.org/show/DokuWiki

As I hope you appreciate, DokuWiki is software, not a wiki hosting site. Is there a public wiki host that runs DokuWiki that you are suggesting we might use?

Richard.

 
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